SP Ausnet and ZigBee devices

[Brian May via luv-main]

Hello,

Has anybody had any recent experience talking to smart power meters via
ZigBee, preferably on Linux? e.g. what hardware? what software?

The only thing I can find is this post from several years ago:

https://lists.luv.asn.au/pipermail/luv-main/2014-August/006620.html

Regards

[Chris Samuel via luv-main]

Post by Brian May via luv-main
Has anybody had any recent experience talking to smart power meters via
ZigBee, preferably on Linux? e.g. what hardware? what software?

Still not here, because Ausnet Services horrible Flash based
MyHomeEnergy.com.au website still says for ZigBee Devices:

# ZigBee management is currently under pilot and is not currently available.
# Enter access code to continue.

Basically it looks like it hasn't changed for 2 years. :-(

I pinged them via twitter to see if there was any news. Also pinged Greenwave
who seemed to make the "gateway" device they say you can connect (and for
which the website does prompt for a MAC address).

Going back through my email I can see that in 2014 I did a support request
with them and was told:

# At this point of time AusNet Services does not support the customer binding
# of ZigBee devices (eg In Home Display) to their smart meter. In the future,
# it will be possible to connect near-real-time devices to most smart meters
# via ZigBee (IHD). When these devices are connected correctly and have
# reliable communication, devices will be able to show “near real time” power
# usage (1 min readings).
#
# There is active project underdevelopment but there is no fixed time frame
# when ZigBee enablement of smart meters in the AusNet Services network
# will occur – it will be most likely sometimes late this year.

I'm guessing that means they might still be working on it.

I'm going to try and reopen that request to see if there is any news.

Might be worth opening your own request with them too!

Best of luck,
Chris

[Allan Duncan via luv-main]

Post by Chris Samuel via luv-main

Post by Brian May via luv-main
Has anybody had any recent experience talking to smart power meters via
ZigBee, preferably on Linux? e.g. what hardware? what software?

Still not here, because Ausnet Services horrible Flash based
# ZigBee management is currently under pilot and is not currently available.
# Enter access code to continue.
Basically it looks like it hasn't changed for 2 years. :-(
I pinged them via twitter to see if there was any news. Also pinged Greenwave
who seemed to make the "gateway" device they say you can connect (and for
which the website does prompt for a MAC address).
Going back through my email I can see that in 2014 I did a support request
# At this point of time AusNet Services does not support the customer binding
# of ZigBee devices (eg In Home Display) to their smart meter. In the future,
# it will be possible to connect near-real-time devices to most smart meters
# via ZigBee (IHD). When these devices are connected correctly and have
# reliable communication, devices will be able to show “near real time” power
# usage (1 min readings).
#
# There is active project underdevelopment but there is no fixed time frame
# when ZigBee enablement of smart meters in the AusNet Services network
# will occur – it will be most likely sometimes late this year.
I'm guessing that means they might still be working on it.
I'm going to try and reopen that request to see if there is any news.
Might be worth opening your own request with them too!

Richard Keech gave a talk in August 2014 and I thought he had a kludge
to access the data.
Unfortunately LUV's past talks doesn't deliver up the relevant file.

[Chris Samuel via luv-main]

Post by Allan Duncan via luv-main
Richard Keech gave a talk in August 2014 and I thought he had a kludge
to access the data.

I'm pretty sure Richard was on a different supply network who offered a
service so you could provide your ZigBee devices HW address & they'd program
the smart meter to permit it to bind.

[Ashley Baumann via luv-main]

I'm with United Energy and you can register devices via their web portal.

Ashley

Post by Chris Samuel via luv-main

Post by Allan Duncan via luv-main
Richard Keech gave a talk in August 2014 and I thought he had a kludge
to access the data.

I'm pretty sure Richard was on a different supply network who offered a
service so you could provide your ZigBee devices HW address & they'd program
the smart meter to permit it to bind.
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[Chris Samuel via luv-main]

Post by Chris Samuel via luv-main
Still not here, because Ausnet Services horrible Flash based
# ZigBee management is currently under pilot and is not currently available.
# Enter access code to continue.
Basically it looks like it hasn't changed for 2 years.

It appears that Ausnet Services have been having major problems with the
stability of their smart meter rollout and it's that which has pushed
everything back.

They issued this notice to the ASX:

http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20140924/pdf/42sdwz3xr8f83k.pdf

The top 3 articles of this blog are relevant to this:

http://www.smartuser.com.au/cat/ausnet/

As is this undertaking made to the state government (touched on in the above
blog posts):

http://www.esc.vic.gov.au/Energy/AusNet-Services-Smart-Meter-Undertaking

They've undertaken that by March 31st 2017 (a years time) that (amongst other
things) their smart meters will be:

# * fully functional, including being able to detect loss of electricity
# supply, whether a meter is not working, and to connect with
# other technolpgy such as in-home displays.

(typo in original page)

So I guess we've got some time to wait still...

All the best,
Chris

[Chris Samuel via luv-main]

Post by Chris Samuel via luv-main
So I guess we've got some time to wait still...

I prodded them via their Zendesk support site and got this response:

# At this point of time, AusNet Services does not support the customer
# binding of ZigBee devices (eg In Home Display) to their smart meter.
#
# It will be possible to connect real time devices to most smart meters,
# the estimated time of arrival for IHD devices is August 2016.
#
# Updates will be provided on www.ausnetservices.com.au

So perhaps this year...

[Ashley Baumann via luv-main]

I have a Raven USB stick from Rainforest Automation plugged into a
raspberry pi, talking to my smartmeter. I have a fairly simple python
script that just parses the xml from the serial device provided by the
stick. I feed the data into graphite for graphing.

Its been running problem free for a couple of years now.

Ashley

Post by Brian May via luv-main
Hello,
Has anybody had any recent experience talking to smart power meters via
ZigBee, preferably on Linux? e.g. what hardware? what software?
https://lists.luv.asn.au/pipermail/luv-main/2014-August/006620.html
Regards
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[Ashley Baumann via luv-main]

From memory I hacked the following script to suit my needs:
https://github.com/frankp/python-raven/blob/master/raven_script.py

Ashley

Post by Ashley Baumann via luv-main
I have a Raven USB stick from Rainforest Automation plugged into a
raspberry pi, talking to my smartmeter. I have a fairly simple python
script that just parses the xml from the serial device provided by the
stick. I feed the data into graphite for graphing.
Its been running problem free for a couple of years now.
Ashley

Post by Brian May via luv-main
Hello,
Has anybody had any recent experience talking to smart power meters via
ZigBee, preferably on Linux? e.g. what hardware? what software?
https://lists.luv.asn.au/pipermail/luv-main/2014-August/006620.html
Regards
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[Chris Samuel via luv-main]

I have a Raven USB stick from Rainforest Automation plugged into a raspberry
pi, talking to my smartmeter.

That's what I've bought, though of course I can't use it until Ausnet decide
to allow customers to bind ZigBee devices to their meters. :-(